Kathmandu, March 21, 2013
The 3rd International Tamang Conference ended in a high note here in Kathmandu. ITC started from March 16 with mass rally around Kathmandu and ended on March 18 with the formation of International Tamang Council in which the main Executive Committee was set up.
The active participation of Tamang’s from all over the world was a special highlight of the conference. From India 200 delegates participated headed by President All India Tamang Buddhist Association K.M. Tamang. And from Sikkim 40 delegates participated under the banner of Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association headed by its president M.B. Moktan.
Binesh Tamang from QATAR, who is also the President of Nepal Non-resident Federation of Indigenous Nationalities, was elected as a Treasurer for the Cuncil and region-wise 5 Vice Presidents were elected in the Council respectively.
Nomination of the Secretary and other office functionaries for the Council will be done by elected members during Council Meeting. During this conference Constitution of the Council was amended and accorded with the discussions among the delegates from all over the world. The Conference focused mainly on the Tamang Script, preserving Arts & Culture, future goal and projects for the Tamangs of the world to be executed as thereof.
M.B. Moktan focused on youth oriented subject, which was exclusively interviewed by Namobuddha FM, Tamang Chawthari and Tamang Sarokar newspapers.
The Conference ended with Cultural Programmes, Khada Arpan Ceremony to the newly elected Executive Members of the Council, distribution of certificates to the delegates of all around the world and a vote of thanks was delivered by Parsuram Tamang, advisor of Nepal Tamang Ghedung.
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April 30, 2013 at 6:35 am
It would be better if the number of participating country was also listed in the news. Similarly, it would have been best if the output of the conference is presented in the downloadable format rather just keeping who was elected for what post.
moktan furba lama
December 1, 2013 at 8:08 am
How far it is true,I don’t know because I have no such bad habit to attend the entertainment baseless programme with full of propaganda and with full of enthuasasim for preservation, upliftment, development of Tamang/Tamag Culture, imaginatically created and invented Tamang/Tamag Costumes, Tamang/Tamag Customs, Tamang/Tamag Sonam Lochar, Tamang/Tamag Festivals and Nyingmapa Buddhism and Nyingmapa Buddhist Religion by holding a Seminar and Workshop for three days may be true and should I believe this and can this statement is believable and can be believed? Because of appearance of those Tamangs/Tamags who participated and attended the three days convention at Kathmandu Nepal and comment from he participants regarding programmes and arrangement at Kathmandu and this three day convention was full of politicised by Mao Communist. So far I know Communists are anti Religion and say Religion is the oppressed creature, the sentiment of heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. Religion is OPIUM for Communist and its followers.Therefore, how can I believe that this convention was successful, because, All India Tamang/Tamag Buddhist Association is a philanthropic Society based on Nyingmapa Buddhist Religion, because Tamangs/Tamags belong to Nyingmapa Sect of Buddhism. Moreover, INTERNATIONAL TAMANG/TAMAG COUNCIL, TAMANG/TAMAG GEDHUN of KATHMANDU and ALL INDIA TAMANG/TAMAG BUDDHIST ASSOCIATION still do not rectify the Word Tamang which was intentionally and atrocitically mispronounced by the Arians “People of Rajput lineage of Rajsthani Muluk who are still rulling in Nepal by atrocitically suppressing the other Tribes in Nepal. My suggestion is here that preservation and upliftment of Culture, Costumes, Customs, Language, Script, Festivals and Nyingmapa Buddhist Religion can not be done on propaganda and by three days entertainment programme. Moktan Furba Lama, Kurseong in the District of Darjeeling, West Bengal, India.
moktan furba lama
December 3, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Fourth International Tamang Conference may kindly be arranged at Alaska.
January 9, 2014 at 4:00 am
i am very great full to know about all that i also want to join it and also be the part of Tamang samanj
moktan furba lama
February 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm
why the members of International Tamang Council and A.I.T.B.A.are getting scare to reply.
December 6, 2014 at 5:50 am
This is the answer to Mr. Phurba Lama who was desperately in need of reply for his above mentioned statement. So here we go… it is very much sure from your words and there is no element of doubt Mr.Lama that you are “Tamang” by birth and “Buddhist” by religion. But you disheartened me, as you are making the biggest mistake of your life by contradicting these kind of allegations against your own Tamang brothers and the religion that always taught you the holy mantra “Buddham Saranam Gacchaami – Dharmam Saranam Gacchaami- Sangham Saranam Gacchaami “. One should clearly understand these above quoted words before saying oneself a Tamang Buddhist. Since you yourself wrote that Tamangs are buddhist by birth.Then my friend you should understand its depth too. That buddhist is no Buddhist if he neglects these words of Buddha. If you respect Buddha ,respect the Dharma that is based on its devine teachings. If you respect Buddha , respect the Sangha that gives its heart and soul to make it sure that their Dharma remains alive. But today by writing such words against your own Buddhist Sangha you have given a slight hint that either you have little knowledge about your own religion or you have made your mind to convert into another religion. Or else you wouldn’t have gone against your own Sangha. Yes if you have any sort of disagreement in any working procedure of our Sangha or you are not liking the way they are functioning, then you should bring forward your deflecting issues with the Sangha. Sit for the talks in these matters. “Ghar ko kuro lai gharai ma samadhaan garnu parcha. Har samasya ko samadhaan waarta le nai huncha.” But not like this ,not at all this way . The route that you chose to show your disagreement is not acceptable. Writing and throwing allegations against your own religious people in social networking sites is not at all a adaptation of Buddha. So i hope my freind i was able to stabilize your state of mind through buddha’s theory.. Thank you and may all of us find those devine energy that buddha always wanted to shower on us.Thank you once again. “Aum Mani Padme Hun”.
December 8, 2014 at 4:18 am
December 8, 2014 at 3:02 pm
Oh! big knowledge of Buddhism, how many Articles in Nepali and in English regarding Lamaism, Monastic Education of Buddhism did Pal Swaarn Pakhrin publish in different English Magazines, in English News Papers and in Nepali News paper Himalaya Darpan and Hamro Praza Sakti ? Please let me know through your comment ? Whether you have read/gone through my Articles of Buddhism and in Tamag/Tamang Culture in Nepali Himalayan Darpan & Hamro Prajasakti and also in English The Statesman and Darjeeling Times and Nangsal published from North East, if you have not then I shall send you xerox copies of these article by postsubject to publish your full postal home address and cell number. Thujese/Thujem. MOKTAN FURBA LAMA, KURSEONG.
December 8, 2014 at 3:05 pm
I shall more comment and questions before you within this week.
December 10, 2014 at 7:20 am
Here is question before vast knowledge of Buddhism and Buddhist Philosophy Pal Swaran Pakhrin from very little knowledge of Buddhism and Buddhist Religion Moktan Furba Lama, Naya Bazar,Kurseong - are as follows:- 1. What is the meanibg of Namo Budhaya, Namo Dharmaya and Namo Saghaya ? 2. What is the meaning of Om Mhani Padme Hum ? 3. What is the meaning of Lamala Kepsichio, Sangayla Kepsichio, Choila Kepsichio ND Gedhunla kepsichio, why these mantras are usually done by Lamas and common people, where it usually done ? 4. What is the meaning of Buddha in essence ? 5. What is the meaning and defination of Wisdom, Enlightenment, Friendship and Compassion ? 6. Why was it transliterated as Buddha and not translated into wisdom and enlightenment ?7. What are those five commitments/oath of Panchaseal and what are the meaning of those five saeals ? 8. why buddha is called Sangay and what is the meaning of Sangay ?9. Why the Scietist say and call that Buddhism/Buddhist Religion is Scientific Religion ?10. Why Buddha is called as Bhagawan, What is the reason behind it ?11. Which Buddha’s period is called as present period, what is the name of Buddha of this present period and what will be the name of next Buddha after this Buddha, after how many years next Buddha’s period will come ? More questions shall be posted to very intelligent having a very vast knowledge of Buddhist Religion and Buddhism frm the man who have very little knowledge of Buddhism in future. Moktan Furba Lama, Kurseong.
December 11, 2014 at 6:28 am
Hello, K.M.TITUNG where are you at present, why don’t you place my resignation in the meeting , it is case since 2011 from the beginning of your tenure as President of A.I.T.B.A., but you have been intentionally avoiding it, kindly let me know what is your problem to accept my resignation and to send letter of acceptance of my resignation from the ordinary membership of A.I.T.B.A. removal/deleting of my name from the Chief Patron of A.I.T.B.A., I want immediate acceptance of my resignation and removal of my name from the register of Chief Patron.Thujese & Dhanyabadh. Moktan Furba Lama, Kurseong.
December 12, 2014 at 1:52 pm
Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association is a Registered Association registered under the Society Act of Sikkim State Government and which is an autonomous Association having its own Bye laws, Rules & Regulation and Constitution which are quite different than that of those Societies/Association which are Registered under the Society Act of Sikkim State Government and those Societies/Associations/Organizations which are Registered under Society Act of different States just as West Bengal, Assam, Jharkhand and Delhi so on can not be same as other Societies/Associations/Organizations and the members of the Societies of different States cannot become or take Membership of any other States because of same status and the National level Association like All India Tamang Buddhist Association which is registered under the Registration Act of West Bengal Society Act is having equal status to Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association because it is also a Registered Association under the Sikkim Government Society Act, therefore Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association can not be a Member of A.I.T.B.A., cant not be affiliated to A.I.T.B.A. and can not be under A.I.T.B.A. ,if any member of either side say that it can be, then, it proves that he is having brain in his knees in stead of head, another, member of the registered Association of any state can not obtain membership of any Association of any other state subjevt to his/her resignation from the memberof either side.But how K.M.Tamang (Titung) could become member of A.I.T.B.A. and hold the chair of President of A.I.T.B.A. very illegally and intruded in the A.I.T.B.A. which is called in Nepali Ghuspethkari.
December 12, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Iam sure that Ajitman Tamang, Staram Tamang, Parsuram Tamang and Mahendra Jung Tamang and others Officials are the intelligent persons of Tamang Community who are having vast knowledge of Tamang Culture, Tamang Language, Tamang Rim THeem and Tamang’s History, but they are more than hundred percent Mao Communist who are dead against Buddha, Buddhism and Buddhist Religion,therefore, I have a question before them can we accept them as Buddhist?
December 13, 2014 at 6:24 am
I have been taking good oppertunity to dialogue and to place questions regarding Tamang/Tamang Communit/Caste before learned and very intelligent Tamang/Tamag who are entitled as an Asset/Diamond of Tamang Community by the Members of International Tamang Council, Nepal Tamang Ghedun,All India Tamang Buddhist Association, Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association,Purbanchal Tamang Association Assam, Delhi Tamang Buddhist Gedhunla, Kolkata Tamang Development Foundation so on are Ajitman Tamang , Parsuram Tamang, Sitaram Tamang, Amrit Yonzon and Mahendra Jung Tamang of Nepal, Kaziman Tamang of Sikkim who hold the portfollio of President of All India Tamang Buddhist Association, besides that another very intelligent Tamang having very vast knowledge of Buddhist Religion and history of Tamang is Swaran Pakhrin not know his whereabout are as follows :- 1. Here is word Tamang & Tamag which one is correct? 2,
December 13, 2014 at 6:45 am
Continuation:- 2.Which Community’s Language this word Tamang/Tamag belongs to ? 3. What are the meaning of these two words Tamang & Tamag by and through doing dhakchya in two different parts in English and in Nepali ? 4. What is the process/procedure to do dhakchya of these two words Tamang/Tamag ? 5. In which century the word Tamag was converted to Tamang ? 6.By whom this word Tamag was ban and notification was issued to pronounce as Tamang? 7. In which century and by whom Tamag Community was converted to caste ?8. In which century Tamag/Tamang started intercaste marriage and formed 12 member Juries (Barha Tamang/Tamag)to convert other caste bride to Buddhist Religion and in Tamang/Tamag by virtue of Ruishel/Ruishole ? 9. Why it is called Ruishel/Ruishole, what is the defination and meaning of this Ruishel/Ruishole ?
December 15, 2014 at 5:22 am
This the answer to Mr. Phurba Lama’s (Moktan)questions. Well before starting with the selection of excerpts from the pali canon to answer your questions., let us purify our soul- “Buddham Saranam Gacchaami, Dhammam Saranam Gacchaami ,Sangham Saranam Gacchaami”. You asked me that -”how many Articles in Nepali and in
English regarding Lamaism, Monastic Education of Buddhism did
Swaarn Pakhrin publish in different English Magazines, in English News
Papers and in Nepali News paper Himalaya Darpan and Hamro Praza
Sakti ? Please let me know through your comment ? -” Mr. Phurba Lama(Moktan) what do you want to reflect by these words. Do you want to prove your superiorty upon me.,or do you want to show how much have you done for your Buddha Dhamma. Well Mr. lama its very good deed of yours if you did for your Dhamma , but claiming that only you did and not others, and by reflecting your names, is not the attitude of Buddha Dhamma. Perhaps it is because Buddhists don’t feel the need to advertise about the good they do.Buddhist see help given to others as an expression of their religious practice just as other religions do. But they believe that it should be done quietly & without self -promotion. Well the following are the questions that you have asked me to answer, and by the Buddha’s grace i hope i will succeed in it.
What is the meaning of Namo Budhaya, Namo Dharmaya
and Namo Saghaya ? 2. What is the meaning of Om Mhani Padme
Hum ? 3. What is the meaning of Lamala Kepsichio, Sangayla Kepsichio,
Choila Kepsichio ND Gedhunla kepsichio, why these mantras are usually
done by Lamas and common people, where it usually done ? 4. What is
the meaning of Buddha in essence ? 5. What is the meaning and
defination of Wisdom, Enlightenment, Friendship and Compassion ? 6. Why
was it transliterated as Buddha and not translated into wisdom and
enlightenment ?7. What are those five commitments/oath of Panchaseal
and what are the meaning of those five saeals ? 8. why buddha is called
Sangay and what is the meaning of Sangay ?9. Why the Scietist say and
call that Buddhism/Buddhist Religion is Scientific Religion ?10. Why
Buddha is called as Bhagawan, What is the reason behind it ?11. Which
Buddha’s period is called as present period, what is the name of Buddha
of this present period and what will be the name of next Buddha after
this Buddha, after how many years next Buddha’s period will come ?
Here is the answer to the question with the numbers respectively::
Answer1 – Before answering this question , you need to know first what actually the word “NAMO” means. The word “namo” states the mental phenomena. “Namo” is the collective term for Vedana(feeling), Sanna (perception), Chetana (intention,volition), Phassa (sensory contact) & Manasikara (attention, advertence). So “Namo” is to refer to the mental components of the above mentioned five khandas. Hence i hope i was able to help you out with the term “Namo”. The rest phrase can be understood by yourself.
Answer 2 – The meaning of “Aum Mani Padme Hum”. The meaning is such complex and vast that one can write a thesis on it. One can’t explain it in a mere short paragraph. But since u have asked in such curiosity , its my duty to explain it. So in brief here we go.Before explaining the meaning of the phrase , lets start with the meaning of the starting word of the phrase “AUM”, because this word is strongly present in the hindu scriptures too. “AUM” represents the sound of energy of the universe., of which all things are manifestation. When you pronounce AUM , you start in the back of the mouth, ” ahh” hence opening the mouth, then “oo” , you fill the mouth, and then “mm” closes the mouth. Here by “ahh” it is describing the birth. When your mouth fills with the word “oo” , its describing coming into being, and finally “mm” means the death, the dissolution that cycles back. Thus it means when one is born , he/she has to die. This is the bitter Universal Truth.”AUM” is called the “four element syllable.” Again one can ask what is this “fourth element syllable”? The silence out of which suddenly ” AUM” arises, and back into which it goes, and which underlies it. Now lets drop into phrase “Aum Mani Padme Hum”. The meaning thus reflected by non other than ,his holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama – “Hail to the jewel in the lotus.” Aum purifies bliss & pride (realm of Devas). Ma purifies jealousy & lust for entertainment (realm of asura). Ni purifies passion/desire (realm of human). Pad purifies ignorance/prejudice (realm of pashu).Me purifies greed & possesiveness. Hum purifies aggression & hatred (realm of Naraka). Hence “Aum Mani Padme Hum” means that independence on the practice of a path, which is an indivisible union of method & wisdom, you can transform your impure body , speech, and mind into the pure exalted body, speech and mind of a Buddha. The description of the mantra appears in the Karandavyuha Sutta(sutra). In this sutra , Shakyamuni Buddha states that”This is the most beneficial mantra. Even i made this aspiration to all the million Buddhas & subsequently recieved this teaching from Buddha Amitabha”.
Answer 3 – This question can be answered by any dhamma guru or even a simple lama that you call at your home for day to day occasions., or even a simple buddhist follower. I m here to answer only those aspect of buddha dhamma that has brought cofusions in state of mind of buddhist followers.
Answer 4 – The meaning of Buddha in essence. “Samma Sambodhi”, the perfect enlightenment. The enlightened one. Knower or Awakened One, is the honorific name given to the sage Gautama ,who discovered & proclaimed to the world- “The Laws Of Deliverance” , which is today known to the west and the other parts of the world by the name Buddhism. Actually there is no such “ism” in our buddha dhamma. This buddhism is the name given by the people of west in parallel to the word Hinduism since it originated from india. Just like the people like to call Bollywood resembling to the word Hollywood. Wheras actually its the Hindi Film Industry and not Bollywood. Thus Buddha, indeed the blessed one, the worthy & rightly self awakened, consummate in knowledge & conduct. Well gone, an expert with regard to the world,, unexcelled as a trainer for those people fit to be tamed, the teacher of devine & human beings, awakened, blessed.” The name given to the one who rediscovers for himself the liberating path of dhamma.
Answer 5 – The meaning of those word can be found in rightly in Oxford dictionary.
Answer 6 – The answer to this question has been answered earlier , since only the style of asking a question is different but the material is just the same. So this time i just want to go in one sentence, since all the words the enlightened one,awakened one, wisdom & compassionate together resemblence the one word Buddha, which the world had forgotten to use. The Samma Sambodhi. The perfect enlightenment. So according to the pali literature the one who attained this all features in oneself was designated as Buddha.
Answer 7 – The Panch seal and its meanings: The acceptance of the Five Moral Percepts( panca-sila). Their observance is the minimum standard needed to form the basis of a decent life & of further progress towards Deliverance.
* Panatipata veramani-sikkhapadam samadiyami- I undertake to observe the precept to abstain from killing living beings.
* Adinnadana veramani-sikkhapadam samadiyami- I undertake to observe the precept to abstain from taking things not given.
* Kamesu Michcacara veramani-sikkhapadam samadiyami – I undertake to observe the precept to abstain from false speech.
* Suameraya-majja-pamadatthana veramani-sikkhapadam samadiyami – I undertake to observe the percept to abstain from intoxicating drinks & drugs causing heedlessness.
Answer 8 – As your question says why Buddha is called Sangay?? What is the meaning of Sangay?? Before giving this answer let me remind you ,that Buddha never asked his disciples to call him by this name “Sangay”. It was his disciples who denoted him by this name.The word “Sangay” is the sanskrit word, since buddhism in its early years flourished widely in and through India ,we can find many resemblances that connects with Hinduism. Since many of his followers got transformed from Hinduism, this kind of words are very common. As i told”Sangay” is a sanskrit word. The actual elaboration of this word is “Sangay Ashweta”. This means the Black Stone., where “Sangay” means Stone and “Ashweta” means whiteless, thus a Black Stone.This Black Stone is worshipped in the form of Lord Shiva. Since followers had the influence of Hinduism , some denoted him as Lord Shiva (Sangey Ashweta/ Sangey). There are also claims by both the Hindus and even the few followers of buddha, by denoting him as the incarnation of Lord Vishnu.So my friend these are just the manifestation of thought of the followers of Buddha.
Answer 9 – Why scientist say Buddhism a scientific religion.?? My friend , i once again like to remind you there is no ” ism” in our religion. It is the westerners who gave the name Buddhism, parallel to Hinduism. Buddha taught the ” Law of Deliverance”. That is Buddha Dhamma. The dhamma is the Teaching of Deliverance in its entirety, as discovered, realized & proclaimed by the Buddha. The dhamma is not the doctrine of revelation, but the teaching of enlightment based on the clear comprehension of actuality by answering the claims of both heart and reason.
Before i answer this question it would be also best to define the word ‘science’.
Science, according to the dictionary is “knowledge which can be made into a
system, which depends upon seeing and testing facts and stating general
natural laws, a branch of such knowledge, anything that can be studied
exactly.” There are aspects of Buddhism that would not fit into this definition
but the central teachings of Buddhism, the Four Noble Truths, most certainly
would. Suffering, the First Noble Truth is an experience that can be defined,
experienced and measured. The Second Noble Truth states that suffering has a
natural cause, craving, which likewise can be defined, experienced and
measured. No attempt is made to explain suffering in terms of a metaphysical
concept or myths. Suffering is ended, according to the Third Noble Truth, not by
relying upon a Supreme Being, by faith or by prayers but simply by removing its
cause. This is axiomatic. The Fourth Noble Truth, the way to end suffering,
once again, has nothing to do with metaphysics but depends on behaving in
specific ways. And once again behavior is open to testing. Buddhism dispenses
with the concept of a Supreme Being, as does science, and explains the origins
and workings of the universe in terms of natural laws. All of this certainly
exhibits a scientific spirit. Once again, the Buddha’s constant advice that we
should not blindly believe but rather question, examine, inquire and rely on our
own experience, has a definite scientific ring to it. He says:
“Do not go by revelation or tradition, do not go by rumor, or the sacred
scriptures, do not go by hearsay or mere logic, do not go by bias towards a
notion or by another person’s seeming ability and do not go by the idea ‘He is
our teacher’. But when you yourself know that a thing is good, that it is not
blamable, that it is praised by the wise and when practiced and observed that it
leads to happiness, then follow that thing.”
So we could say that although Buddhism is not entirely scientific, it certainly
has a strong scientific overtone and is certainly more scientific then any other
religion. It is significant that Albert Einstein, the greatest scientist of the
twentieth century said of Buddhism:
“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a
personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and
the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience
of all things, natural and spiritual and a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers
this description. If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific
needs, it would be Buddhism.”
Answer 10 – Why Buddha is called Bhagwan, what is the reason? Mr. Phurba Moktan, who told you , who taught you, you misleaded you, who threw you in the darkness of this false statement, that Buddha is god ..!!! Plz tell me , i need the answer, which laama told you, which dhamma guru told or taught you, that he is god.!! I m ready for an open dialogue with that person, who claims Buddha to be God or Bhagwan. There is no single an equipped statement, there is no single an ambigious statement, where Buddha claims or says – I am God or worship me. . He did not claim that he was a god, the child of a god or even the messenger from a god. He was a human being who perfected himself and taught that if we followed his Laws of Deliverance, we could perfect ourselves too. He neither claimed himself to be god nor he allowed his disciples to waste their time in such baseless issues of knowing God .,or the creator of this universe.There is no creator god in Buddha Dhamma.The Buddha pointed out that no God or priest nor any other kind of being has the power to interfere in the working out of someone else’s Kamma. Buddhism, therefore, teaches the individual to take full responsibility for themselves. For example, if you want to be wealthy then be trustworthy, diligent and frugal, or if you want to live in a heaven realm then always be kind to others. There is no God to ask favours from, or to put it another way, there is no corruption possible in the workings of Kamma. Do Buddhists believe that a Supreme Being created the universe? Buddhists would first ask which universe do you mean? This present universe, from the moment of the ‘big bang’ up to now, is but one among countless millions in Buddhist cosmology. The Buddha gave an estimate of the age of a single universe-cycle of around 37,000 million years which is quite plausible when
compared to modern astrophysics. After one universe- cycle ends another begins, again and again, according to impersonal law. A Creator God is redundant in this scheme. No being is a Supreme Saviour, according to the Buddha, because whether God, human, animal or whatever, all are subject to the Law of Kamma. Even the Buddha had no power to save. He could only point out the Truth so that the wise could see it for themselves. Everyone must take responsibility for their own future well being, and it is dangerous to give that responsibility to another.
So my friend i hope i was able to so you the way by the words of Buddha. I hope you will find enough in this anthology to gain at least an inkling both of the range of the Buddhists teachings & the sweeping trajectory of his extraordinary life.
December 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm
Hellow Mr. Phurba Lama, this is Satish Pakhrin , son of Mr. Swaran Pakhrin. I was the one who was cross answering every questions and underlining every answers to your questions in the name of Swaran Pakhrin. Since i loved to write upon all the controversial matters,whether it be about political debate or about any religion or on a topic in comparitive religion, all in the banner of my dad’s name Swaran Pakhrin, since he was the one who influenced me in such field.Well Mr. Lama ,though we have never met, but through my inner conscience i feel , you prevail the same age that of my father, so i have a tremendous respect for you.I also feel you have genuinety in the basis of Buddha Dhamma & his teachings. I really don’t have any hard feelings for you, its just that few of your words made me , and pushed me to write those words against you. Thereafter, your questions that needed an answer, had to be fullfilled from my way. So i did so. But , Mr. Lama few things that you described , regarding the working procedures of our Association, and doubts in the field of some designateries are acceptable.l agree on those aspects. Those decisions that are made and passed are not up to the mark. But Again you have asked to throw some reflection on this controversial issue, such as the word “Tamang” or “Tamag”. Let me tell you, Since till now, such true clues, or valid reasoning elements has not yet been snapped or skectched., we shouldn’t jump into such conclusion. Whereas, on the point where you are concluding that its “Tamag” and not “Tamang”, and saying its “Tamag the real word and not ” Tamang”, how can you say it, Mr. Lama.?? Just because, a person writes a tibetan dictionary with the word ” Tamag” doesn’t conclude that its “tamag” and not ” tamang”. You didn’t ask him, why didn’t he mention the word “Tamang” in that tibetan dictionary. As “Tamang” and “Tamag” both are relevant in tibetan language. We therefore get to understand “Tamag” means Horse riders ( Ta- horse, Mag- rider), then again we get to know some tribes in tibet also uses the word “Tamang” for Horse Traders (Ta- horse, Mang-traders). So we can’t conclude which one is actual and the right word for our tribes. As before this “tamang” or “tamag” came to existence in the ears of the people or be known to people, one more name used to be termed for our tribes, and it was “Murmi”. So Mr. Lama, there are lots and lots to be solved out. We shouldn’t jump into conclusion and rest our case of searching our historical identification so easily, or else our coming generation will blame us terribly for such careless and irresponsible statement. The world’s renowned scholars, historians and researchers of indigenous people are still banging their head to decode the word “tamang or tamag” and we by giving such unserious and dogmatic conclusions will just make us vague and lead us eventually in vain. If we do so, then the time will come , when the truth for ever will remain irretrievable.
Hence, we should go on , in finding the truth, so that truth may free us. “Aum Mani Padme Hum”.l
December 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm
I am preparing all in details, though still there few numbers to answers just as Tamag , only one answer is given but it quite vague because of deficiency of vitamin knowledge of Tibetan i.e. Bhoti bhasa, regarding Sangay is not clear, regarding Scientific Religion , it is also not clear, dhakchya of Sangay, Tamag is very important to get exact meaning, out of 9 questions regarding Tamag you have ahardly answered only one.Question no. 11 is also not answered. Due to derth of time because of my social services in different societies and in preparation of Schemes of few number of monasteries for the year 2014 – 2015and I shall definately post in future for which Ihave already prepared 4 pages of dialogues. OM AAH HUM BAZRA GURU PEMA SIDDHI HUM. TAD TADYATHA OM ANALAY ANALAY BISHATE BISHATE BAYRA BAYRA VAJRA DHARINI BANDA BANDA VAJRAPANI HUM HUM PHAT PHAT SVAHA OMDARUN BANDA HUM HUM PHAT PHAT SVAHA.THUJESE, THUJEM, SADHU, THANKS & DHANYABADH.
December 19, 2014 at 1:35 pm
If Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association is really a branch /unit of All India Tamang Buddhist Association and completely under A.I.T.B.A.and it is amalgamated with A.I.T.B.A.due to which Association elected K.M. Tamang as a President of A.I.T.B.A. then I am sure that Sikkim Tamang Buddhist Association abrogated the Registration which was registered under Society Act of Sikkim State Government and follows the Rules & Regulation, Bye Laws and Constitution of A.I.T.B.A. and amalgamated with A.I.T.B.A.as per Bengal Societies Registration Act, 1961 then please page 8 sl.n12(2)(a)(b(c)(3)(4)(a)(b)(c) of the The West Bengal Societies Registration Act 1961 of latest edition of 2014, then have a discussion in the meeting whether viable or not. MOKTAN FURBA LAMA
December 20, 2014 at 2:52 am
Mr.Phurba Lama, as you said, you are preparing all in details , and for which you have prepared 4 pages of dialogues. Its good, very good.You better do your homework well before opening a dialogue infront of me. You know what..??? Buddha said – “Three things cannot be hidden, The Sun, The Moon, and The Truth.” Truly today the truth came out of the darkness. The truth that you struggle very badly in english. Infact it seems you have a drastic problem in understanding the words that is put before you by me. It may be the result of weakness in your english vocabulary, which is obstructing you to understand my answers for your questions, or purposely you are acting such ,cause you feel there’s nothing left with you to interrogate or any dialogue left to put infront of me. Well Mr. Lama i again want to bring your sleeping senses into activation, by repeating my words from the previous answer ,and this time in a basic simple english so that you can understand. I didn’t answer cause i told you very clearly in my previous statement, that “This question can be answered by any dhamma guru or even a simple lama that you call at your home for day to day occasions., or even a simple buddhist follower. I m here to answer only those aspect of buddha dhamma that has brought cofusions in state of mind of buddhist followers.” That is the reason i didn’t gave the answer of question number 11. Again Mr. Lama you told , you did not undertand my statement for the word “Sangay”. Well , so precisely and so deeply , i took you , with the word , and made you drowned in the meaning of the word ” Sangay” but you didn’t understand. I took you to the root of that word, the word from where it originated, but so sad , that you were not able to understand. Do you know why???. I will tell you why., because you only knew its meaning in tibetan, may be because your dhamma guru might have said so. But you should have asked, from where did this “Sangay” word came inside the tibetan literature.But i feel even your dhamma guru might not have been able to answer. This is the reason today there are so many obligations and confusions regarding buddha dhamma in the minds of ordinary people who follows it. Well i think , you want to hear the tibetan version and its meaning. I think that might give you peace. Then hear it. I will fullfill your that wish too. In tibetan “Sang gyay” and it is not “Sangay” as you wrote. “Sang gyay” simply means “Buddho” in pali and “Buddha” in sanskrit. “The fully awakened one.” The tibetan word for Buddha is “Sang gyay”(pronounced as Song gyay). When we look at the etymology for this word, we see that it is closely related to the word for enlightenment. Sang means “awakened” (as from the sleep of ignorance) or as ” purified” (as in purified of all obscurations). Gyay means ” expanded ,blossomed, fully developed”. So the two syllables combine to mean ” one such as Shakyamuni Buddha, who has purified all the obscurations (Sang) and who has developed fully (Gyay) all the qualities of enlightenment. So i think Mr. lama you are in peace by hearing tibetan version, cause you knew only the tibetan version and not its origination.
Now there was again, a cry was from your end, that i didn’t gave you all the answers regarding the “Tamag” and “Tamang”. Well Mr. Lama, i told you since there is no true doctrines or true evidence regarding our community, we shouldn’t speak in a childish way. Afterall, its all about our caste/community/tribe or whatever you say.We can’t be so lazy in defining who we are just in the mere sake of that dictionary , on the basis of which you are crying loud, about which is right and which is wrong. Do i still have to paste that same statement word to word, so that you can understand why i didn’t answer? Then read again, here we go..” (Let me tell you, Since till now, such true clues, or valid reasoning elements has not yet been snapped or skectched., we shouldn’t jump into such conclusion. Whereas, on the point where you are concluding that its “Tamag” and not “Tamang”, and saying its “Tamag the real word and not ” Tamang”, how can you say it, Mr. Lama.?? Just because, a person writes a tibetan dictionary with the word ” Tamag” doesn’t conclude that its “tamag” and not ” tamang”. You didn’t ask him, why didn’t he mention the word “Tamang” in that tibetan dictionary. As “Tamang” and “Tamag” both are relevant in tibetan language. We therefore get to understand “Tamag” means Horse riders ( Ta- horse, Mag- rider), then again we get to know some tribes in tibet also uses the word “Tamang” for Horse Traders (Ta- horse, Mang-traders). So we can’t conclude which one is actual and the right word for our tribes. As before this “tamang” or “tamag” came to existence in the ears of the people or be known to people, one more name used to be termed for our tribes, and it was “Murmi”. So Mr. Lama, there are lots and lots to be solved out. We shouldn’t jump into conclusion and rest our case of searching our historical identification so easily, or else our coming generation will blame us terribly for such careless and irresponsible statement. The world’s renowned scholars, historians and researchers of indigenous people are still banging their head to decode the word “tamang or tamag” and we by giving such unserious and dogmatic conclusions will just make us vague and lead us eventually in vain. If we do so, then the time will come , when the truth for ever will remain irretrievable.Hence, we should go on , in finding the truth, so that truth may free us).” – This was the reason of not answering your questions, regarding (Tamag and Tamang). Because the Buddha’s follower wouldn’t jump into conclusion. As Buddha said ” Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if i have said it, unless it agrees with your own conscience.” But you merely in the sake of a dictionary ,that too which was written just by a single person, you try to give such conclusion. And you have written so long holy mantra..just to show me ?or do you really believe in those holy mantra?. First understand its meaning, and then type those words. And most importantly try to utilize it in your own life. As because Buddha said “However many holy words you may read, however many holy words you may speak, what good will they do to you, if you do not act upon them? “. Again u told you didn’t understand my answer to your question , that whether Buddha Dhamma is scientific or not? Then Mr. Lama , this is my kind request ,please go back to my previous post for the answer, and please this time, read slowly, even I suggest you to keep beside you an english dictionary, infact an oxford dictionary will provide with greater result. , and may this time you understand the answer well. I hope Mr. Lama i was able to purify you ,with the truth. “Om Mani Padme Hum”
December 22, 2014 at 4:57 am
Hello, my dear father & son(Swaran & Satish), after having gone through your answers with comment and explanation, it is proved both of father & son are men of full ego and proud of knowledge of literate Englisg, Poetic English Buddha,
December 22, 2014 at 2:52 pm
The man who waked up at 2,52 a.m. and write comment means every one knows his attitude and character of very destructive type person and also knew in which atmosphere and environment he is born and brought, we never get apple from the mangoes’ tree, due to load shading , battery became very low and stopped writing, it will be posted very soon. Regarding 4 pages, you are misunderstood, that is an article in Nepali and English shall be sent to Himalaya Darpan and Statesman for publication in which detail of controversial matters are written, please don’t mind for it.
December 22, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Hellow Mr. Lama, as i told you, as i Love to write in the banner(name)of my dad , so my dad is not involved in giving the answer to you.So please remove the doubt that my father is involved in showing you the ego. You also need to remove your doubt from me too, as even i don’t keep or love to keep that burden of the word named “EGO” upon my shoulders. As because this is just your doubt.So u need to permanently delete this word from the system of your body. As doubt is dangerous. Buddha said – “There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.” But let me tell you, Mr. Lama it is not that i only disagree with you.,i very much agree with your other reasons of not liking the nature or working procedure of our Association. I strongly support you. There is very much politics, propaganda, and sad to say but no, awareness of the community or the so called religion. There is just a shit going on and on. We can just smell politics and nothing else. In this issue i very much understand your point of view., and i condemn such kind of attitude that is prevailing in our A.I.T.B.A. Thank you. “Om Mani Padme Hum”
January 15, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Oh! really I have chosen you one of the best Tamang among all the Tamangs so far my kmowledge and , information because of your good arguments with very healthy & conducive response, I am at a loss to say here why you have been hiding behind the curtain and why our officials are not in quest of our so intelligent Tamangs but only running after Chairs and to earn money through the image of the chairs of the Association, it is a responsibility of the Officials to find out such a person who is having knowledge of Buddha, Buddhist Religion, Sangha, Buddhism Buddhist Monastic Education, Tamang Culture, Tamang Language & Literature, Tamang Customs son for preservation of Tamang Culture, Tamang Customs, Buddhist Religion, but there is a race to encroach the Chairs only, so sad, can’t help, that is why this Association could not do anything just after achievement of Scheduled Tribes, its main tradition is to collect donation and to hold three days convention on 23,24 & 25 January every year.
January 17, 2015 at 7:49 am
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February 3, 2015 at 1:25 pm
It has come to know from so many Tamangs who had come to participate in the 30th Convention (Adhibeshan) of All India Tamang Buddhist Association that the complete premises including Pandal and stages of the Convention was converted to decent very big workd field of Tamang Youths of Girls and Boys with full of intoxication of Alcohol in the Sukuna High School Field and no one including officials were in good mood because of full of open sale of Alcohol in all 60 number of Restaurants (Stalls) which was given verbal permission to sale it very openly by the Officials of A.I.T.B.A. Central Committee due to such an under weight President who illegally intruded from Sikkim without having a Branch of A.I.T.B.A. in Sikkimm and crossed Rangpo Bengal Sikkim Boarder under the barbed wire fencing and due this illegal procedure of electing of President boys andgirls of Tamang community took undue advantage and converted Adhibesa into war field on 24th January evening and night and due which three innocent boys were taken by Police of Sukuna Police Out Post for nothing.This is an outcome fruitful very healthy result of All India Tamang Buddhist Association. Therefore I offer my very heartfelt congratulation for success of this Adhibesan with a War Field. Moktan Furba Lama, Nayabazar Kurseong.
April 2, 2015 at 4:48 am
Hami sab tamang haru akk houm haiiiiiii……thujem
April 5, 2015 at 3:45 am
It could not cognizant the word aak houm, please write in a proper way.
April 22, 2015 at 2:34 pm
I vividly understood and came to make me understand regarding caliber, efficiency, capability of the entire Officials of the A.I.T.B.A. because of after the death of M.S. Bomzon, as because no single Gompa and no single Philanthropic Society in Darjeeling Hill could submit the Scheme for development of Tibetan/Buddhist Art and Culture for financial assistance from Ministry of Culture, Government of India, it proves without M.S. Bomzon A.I.T.B.A. is completely handicapped and abnormal, because no single scheme is submitted through A.I.T.B.A.Hello, Kaziman Tamang President, what about your capability and how you have been encroaching the chair of President without your efficiency, do not hold the chair as a chatterbox.